I got on my daughter's case once about it. And she said, "It's a meditative prayer."
"I'm doing online."
Yeah. And I was like, oh.
You guys think if it's with the phone it's always just related to like negativity
I do. Most of the time.
And like, I could like stub my, my toe and my mom's like "'Cause it's that phone's right there."
[Jade] Hi, how are you doing?
[Dodge] Good, how are you?
[Jade] Nice to meet you.
Nice to meet you. I think we'll do some questions today.
Yes, I'm excited. Should we just hop in and see what's what's on the pieces of paper?
Let's yeah let's see let's take a look.
Have you ever felt disappointed or angry with God? Talk about it.
Disappointed or angry? Well, I mean, yeah that's, that's kind of a personal question. So I grew up Christian. I grew up my whole life praying, you know taught to pray that kind of thing. But it, as you get to be an adult, I realize that a lot of times things you're praying for and things that you want or don't want, they're kind of more gray you know? And they're like, they don't necessarily know exactly the path, like when it comes to career choices or whatever. And then we've had, you know we have children and we've had struggles with some of our kids and you pray for your kids a lot. And you, you sort reach down into your faith to help you with some of those things. And it doesn't always work out how you want it to be. I don't know if I would say anger, but it maybe helped maybe redefine how I think about my faith. Does that make sense?
Yeah, that makes a lot of sense.
I don't know. Okay, ready for this next one? Describe a difficult time when you turned to God to help you get through it.
Oh my gosh. I could name like 10 this week, like.
Really, they were that difficult. You survived all 10?
Yes, that's just
Okay, that's good.
That's who I just always go to, you know like that's my first thing. I'm just when I'm struggling, 'cause you know I'm 19 and I'm living an insane life. Like I'm traveling all the time by myself to scary places and doing this crazy career and life is, you know look at the country we live in right now and everything. And sometimes, you know just like talking to your mom or talking to your friends just isn't enough, you know? And so I'm always turning to God, just like please just give me a sign or you know, like an answer. And you know, a lot of the time I like to think it is like I'll see like a good quote that comes across my Instagram page or something, I think it's sign from God. You know just tells me keep positive and keep going and everything. And I always turn to God for every little issue, so.
Through a message from Instagram through Instagram.
Pretty interesting. That's what my daughters would say.
Whether it's like a super big problem, you know like if I had like a family member pass away or something or if we're struggling about to lose everything or if even if I just had a super bad day where I was insecure about my body or something and I just was super emotional. Like whether it's super extreme or just minor to some people, I always like just to turn to God and just ask for a sign or just for the strength to, you know get through it.
Okay, what's the first moment you can remember where you felt God in your life?
Ooh, actually it's, I mean it's easy. I, it's funny, I don't remember much about my early childhood or anything like that, but when I was 12 or 13, I was riding a bike home from school and I can remember that I was praying about something that probably wasn't that serious. It probably wasn't serious at all and we'd always sort of been taught to pray and I believed you could pray anytime, anywhere.
And I just remember this overwhelming sense of just joy and that's the only way I could describe it. And it was so strong that to this day, I remember it it was my first of what I would consider a spiritual experience and of and maybe I've had less than you know maybe just a handful of those my whole life. So it was really important for me because I just felt like I wasn't alone. It wasn't just me, but there was somebody, something you know, looking down on me.
And in my Christian background, I mean I just understood that to be our Heavenly Father, you know? So, so that was it.
How about you?
First thing that comes to my mind my whole life I've been in and out the hospital with a super bad autoimmune disease, many, many doctors and tests and just a bunch of stuff and everything. And when I was about eight, I got really, really sick probably the sickest I've ever been in my life. And I was in the hospital for a few weeks and my mom wanted to get, have me have a blessing, you know to try and just see what we could do.
And when I was getting blessed, like I just had this overwhelming feeling of just emotion. Like that's the only way I to explain it. It was just such a surreal feeling. I've never felt anything like that in my entire life. And I was definitely like, like there's no way that an eight year old felt, like anything like that besides just from God. Like there's no way, like.
That's cool you can remember it from eight.
Yeah, you could've given me a puppy, a pony, whatever. Like I would've never felt anything like that, you know, besides what I felt that night. And I just felt just so just genuinely, just good, you know like I've been so sick and I didn't feel good and everything and yeah, that was just such a surreal feeling. And I remember just like it was yesterday.
What spiritual practices do you find most helpful in feeling connected to God?
I would say just being by myself and just having just a good prayer by myself, just in my own thoughts and everything, whether it's out loud or just in my mind, like that. And I know you mentioned like your daughter likes to meditate and like do yoga and everything. And I also really enjoy stuff like that as well.
And, but like when I'm meditating and everything like, if I'm just like trying to just destress and just you know, let all the bad energy, any negative thoughts outta my head and everything. And there's only positive stuff coming in. And then I feel like God's just sending me like all those good vibes and everything so I can let go of all the bad stuff and everything. But those are probably like my top two. What I like to do.
For me. I mean, I do believe in prayer. I, and I find myself. It's funny though. I find myself praying a lot more just as I'm driving around doing different things, rather than like, I'm not as stalwart as I used to be in kneeling down and saying prayers two times a day. Frankly, 'cause I have a bad knee and I can't, it's really hard to kneel down. So I do a lot of my praying laying down or standing up. But it's really hard to get on my knees and get up again. But I also, it's interesting and I find myself talking to you and I keep referencing my daughters because I found myself as a parent talking to them about these kind of things 'cause we're, I feel like you know, as a family we're all in this together. And one of the things I've felt that's been really necessary is to talk about our phones and social media. So I always encourage my kids, just, I don't know if it's 10 minutes a day, 20 minutes day, just turn everything off or walk away from it and become I, to say one with nature just sounds so hokey. But I mean just feel where you are and feel your place in the universe and feel your place as a child of your, of our Heavenly Father. And I don't think you can do that if you're always tuned into something and for my generation is probably the television.
If the television's always on you can't do that.
I just, I just think it's so funny how you're saying that. 'Cause like my mom's the same way about my phone. But like you guys, you guys don't understand. Like you guys think we're just like always just, like making TikToks and like goofing off and everything. But sometimes like our phones even is like a form of you know, like we can go on, like for me like I have like all these little motivational pages I follow on Instagram that keeps me
That's a good point.
You know keep me going and everything. You can connect to other people, talk to them and you know, probably have a group. I'm sure your daughter has a group chat with her friends or anything where they talk and discuss everything.
And I got on my daughter's case once about it and she said, "It's a meditative prayer."
"I'm doing online."
And I was like, oh.
Yeah, but you guys think if it's with the phone, it's always just related to like negativity most of the time. And like I could like stub my toe and my mom's like it's 'cause that phone's right there.
Well, it's not negativity. It's just, it fills your brain, you know had to tell my kids, just leave some spot open.
And I'm not just being biased, but I trust me our phones, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stick up for your daughter right now. Like no for real. get off her case about her phone I'm telling you. Like it's so it really is so beneficial. And we know like we know when it's time to put our phones down and everything, all that and everything. But sometimes our phone, I'm gonna add that to my list actually, my phone is actually a good, you know
Okay, I've never heard that. And the point taken, I'll be more lenient. But I just find like I really feel like, like sometimes it'll go in my backyard, take my shoes off and just walk in the grass for a while. But I don't want anything with me. Like no phone, no computer.
You see like me, I'm like, oh, I'm gonna I want my phone to listen to my, you know, my sad, my sad music or something.
That's my kids' generation for sure.
Really like decompress and destress and you're
Wait, you listen to what sad music?
Yeah. I love listening to sad music when I'm trying to like, I don't wanna like listen to like upbeat and anything I love to listen
Like who or what?
I love. I love, I love Sleeping At Last. And just like, just like just some calm you know, just good old sad songs.
So like in my generation that was Morrissy you know that guy?
We'll have to work on that. Oh, I think it's your turn.
What do you wish the younger generation understood about your generation's spiritual beliefs?
More people abided by a structured religious experience. I think, that's my perception. More people feel like the only in my generation the only way to maybe have gotten to that spiritual level was to have been in a structured position. Didn't mean you didn't have to have your own spiritual relationship with, you know, God, or, but that was the case. So 'cause I think today my daughters, and that generation they feel like it's nice but it's not imperative. In our generation, it was more like no this is it. This is, this is how you get to that spot. I'm not saying we were right. Just saying that's the way it was. And so through our lens, which is probably why your mom talks to you and I talk to my kids the way, you know we're like well back in my day. But there is kind of that feeling like well this is what worked for us. So I guess I would say just have empathy for what the sit, the life we had. And I guess we have to have empathy back for you. But yeah I don't know I think that's it. I don't think it's that much different. I guess the question would be. You know what do you want the older generation? What do you want us to know about?
Your generation's spiritual beliefs.
Where do I start?
Oh boy, here we go.
I wish you guys would just like, I know you guys want us to be like exactly how you guys were and anything and abide by abide by like your religious beliefs and everything. And honestly we would probably be more, we'd probably be more willing to learn and you know, abide by your guys' rules and everything if you guys would be more willing to, you know take a look into what we wanna talk about and everything and let us, you know
But there was a concept that parents should teach their children or parents know better than their kids. There was a concept.
There was a concept. And I really do believe my mom's always right. Like when she tells me not to do something, you know like she's like, no I don't think it's a good idea. Like she's she like our parents always end up being right and everything. But there's a difference between you guys always being right about certain things and then just thinking you guys know everything. You know, like you guys try to like come in and tell us about things that we obviously know. Like oh that phone is not good for you or you know but you guys know, you guys are on your phone. You guys are on TikTok and everything like us. And we would be more willing if you guys would be more willing to, you know see some of the stuff that we like to do. And you know, the reasons behind you know, why we just sneak around you guys and just do it behind your backs and everything. 'Cause we know if we do it right in front of your eyes, you guys are gonna be blow up on us and give us a lecture. And you know.
Not all the time. No, 'cause well my wife and I we've had we've remembered that we did things that we probably shouldn't have done as teenagers.
You guys don't want us to make the same mistakes. But, think about it though, if you wouldn't have made those mistakes then you wouldn't have that true those lessons or anything.
And that's true.
You guys wanna shelter us and not let us make the same mistakes as you guys. But if we don't make those mistakes, how are we gonna learn? You know you touch the stove once, you don't touch it again. So I'll draw, read it to you and they'll start your timer.
Oh, okay. Okay, goodness.
Speed round. Does life really have a purpose? What do you think it is?
Geez Louise. Oh, I'm gonna say because at different times of my life I would've said different things. So I think the purpose is just to find yourself because
Well that was my answer.
It could be the same answer, just a bridge generational divide that we had on some issues. Yeah, I think it's about finding yourself and yeah I don't know how else to say it. That's it I think for me.
Wanna add to that?
Yeah, so I would, I very much agree. I think life, you sort of live life like it's gonna be your last day on earth. Like really just live life to the fullest. Don't have regrets. Don't treat people bad. Don't end on bad terms with anyone. You never know if that's gonna be the last time you see someone. So I'm always just trying to just be positive. Live life. Always be on good terms with people 'cause you never know. Tomorrow's not promised.
Okay, da, da, da. Okay, let's see what we got here. What? Oh, what's a spiritual practice you think everyone could benefit from, ready?
I think just obviously prayer for sure. Like just, just take it just try it once. You know, even if your prayer doesn't get answered and you don't get the answers you want. It's so good just to get it out and just say what you're you know, just vocalize it you know rather than just keeping it inside and everything. I think that's probably something everyone should just try just, and that is even if you're not talking to God, if you're talking to like whatever you believe in, higher power you know, whatever that may be.
Oh right on 32nd mark okay. Awesome.
[Jade] Okay, what about you?
For me, it's just love other people as you would want to be loved.
I like that a lot.
I just think that's it because there's a lot of strife in the world.
And if we all just took a step back, no matter what background you come from, whether there's generational like you and me, we're separated by generations or race or ethnicity or religion, just take a step back and love everybody.
Because I don't know. I just feel like there's a lack of that in the world today.
I like that answer. And look, see, even on my phone case, I have self love affirmations.
There you go.
Not bad things causing anything.
Well, you know, I always say the phone is a tool, that's all it is. So it can be used for good and bad.