- What spiritual practices do you find most helpful in feeling connected to God? - I would say just being by myself and just having a good prayer by myself, just in my own thoughts and everything, whether it's out loud or just in my mind, like that. And I know you mentioned like, your daughter likes to meditate and like do yoga and everything and I also really enjoy stuff like that as well. And, but like, when I'm meditating and everything, like, if I'm just like trying to just de-stress and just, you know, let all the bad energy, any negative thoughts out of my head and everything and just only positive stuff coming in, and then I feel like God's just sending me like, all those good vibes and everything so I can let go of all the bad stuff and everything. But, those are probably like, my top two. What I like to do. - For me, I mean, I do believe in prayer. I find myself, it's funny though, I find myself praying a lot more just as I'm driving around and doing different things rather than like, I'm not as stalwart as I used to be in kneeling down and saying prayers two times a day, frankly, 'cause I have a bad knee and I can't, it's really hard to kneel down. So, I do a lot of my praying laying down or standing up, but it's really hard to get on my knees and get up again. But I also, it's interesting and I find myself talking to you and I keep referencing my daughters, because I found myself as a parent, talking to them about these kind of things, 'cause I feel like, we know, as a family, we're all in this together. And one of the things I felt that's been really necessary is to talk about, our phones and social media. So I always encourage my kids, just, I don't know if it's 10 minutes a day, 20 minutes a day, just turn everything off or walk away from it and become, I have to say one with nature, just sounds so hokey, but I mean, just feel where you are and feel your place in the universe and feel your place as a child of our heavenly Father. And I don't think you can do that if you're always tuned into something. My generation is probably the television. If the television's always on, you can't do that. - I just think it's so funny how you're saying that, 'cause like, my mom's the same way about my phone, but like you guys, you guys don't understand, like, you guys think we're just like always just like, making Tik Toks and like goofing off and everything, but sometimes like, our phones even, is like, a form of you know, like, we can go on, like for me, like I have like, all these little motivational pages I follow on Instagram that keep me, you know, going and everything. You can connect to other people, talk to them and you know, probably have a group, I'm sure your daughter has a group chat with her friends and anything where they talk and sit and everything. - I got on my daughter's case once about it and she said, it's a meditative prayer I'm doing online. - [Woman] Yeah. - And I was like, oh, okay. - Yeah, but you guys think it's with the phone, it's always just related to like, negativity. - I do, most of the time. - And, and like, I could like stub my toe, my mom's like, 'cause that phone right there. - Well, it's not negativity, it's just, it fills your brain, you know? I had to tell my kids, just leave some spot open. - [Woman] And I'm not just being biased, but trust me, our phones, I'm gonna stick up for your daughter right now, like, no, for real, get off her case about her phone, I'm telling you, like, it really is so beneficial. And we know, like, we know when it's time to put our phones down and everything and all that and everything. But sometimes our phone, I'm gonna add that to my list, actually, my phone is actually a good, you know. - Okay. I've never heard that. And the point taken, I'll be more lenient, but I just find like, I really feel like, like sometimes I'll just go in my backyard, take my shoes off and just walk in the grass for a while. But I don't want anything with me. Like, no phone, no computer. - You see like me, I'm like, oh, I want my phone to listen to my sad music or something. - That's definitely my kid's generation. - [Woman] Really like, decompress and de-stress. - Wait, listen to what? Sad music. - Yeah, I love listening to sad music when I'm trying to like, I don't wanna like listen to like, upbeat or anything. I love. - Like who or what? - [Woman] I love sleeping at last and just like some calm, you know, just good old sad songs. - So like in my generation, that was Morrissey. You know that guy? - No. - Oh.